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[applause] >> more about the impact of the fiscal cliff coming about as the joint chief of staff >> i think the writers institute is very important that in the culture. we are a culture of words, of the voices. the words are key to our imagination and a capacity to envision things. we ourselves are tied to print on the page. but i think there is no other art form so readily accessible that is something in literature and the just captures the human spirit. .. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff admiral michael mueller joined former senators in the house armed services committee chairman this week to urge congress to avoid sequestration. also speaking over the next 50 minutes, arms services committee chairman sam nunn, ike skelton and the national security hosted this event in washington, d.c.. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is pete peterson. i would have given you a review of the foundation and why we are supporting the project you are here about today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trend, and the vast unfunded pharmacis
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on january 3 after we have gone over the fiscal cliff. guest: i suspect congress and the president to be around close to new year's eve. the probability is that rationality will prevail and the president and congress shall make a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and another recession. host: for that to happen, something has to happen this week? guest: not this week but every day that so little gets done raises the chance it will go wrong. i worry about that a lot. guest: it is a small deal, they can do something quickly. it may not require even a roll-call vote. to do the big deal, they did not have enough time to do the big deal when congress reconvenes on november 13. so the idea with two weeks to go is very small. host: final word? guest: i think it is time to talk about the spending side. look at anyone trying to run a federal agency and they are being told the budget will be cut at 14% across the board beginning january 2. this is a ridiculous way to run a country. host: douglas holtz-eakin is the former director of the congressional b
on january 3 after we have gone over the fiscal cliff. guest: i suspect congress and the president to be around close to new year's eve. the probability is that rationality will prevail and the president and congress shall make a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and another recession. host: for that to happen, something has to happen this week? guest: not this week but every day that so little gets done raises the chance it will go wrong. i worry about that a lot. guest: it is a small deal, they...
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cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue increases. now how you get those to revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign, and it's an item more negotiation, i for one think you can get there by eliminating and broadeninging the tax base which eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter is that we're not undertaxed as americans, we overspend. i think everything would agree that we overspend that's why we have this debt to gdp of 100% as far as the eye can see absent policy changes, so whatever you do, you first have to agree what the level of debt to gdp ought to be. and there will be a debate about that b
cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue...
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giev tot face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying. the president is saying there's no way to make the math work without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give in on this. >> yeah, yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position. that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table. yo view to have revenue increases. now, how you get those revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign. it are be an item of discussion during the negotiation. i for one think you could get there in way that would promote economic growth by eliminating -- by bronding the tax base, by eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter, fareed, is we're not undertaxed as americans. we overspend. i think everybody would agree we overspend. that's why we have this debt to gdp over 100%. fars as the eye can see, absence poultcy changes. whatever you do, you first have to agree what the
giev tot face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying. the president is saying there's no way to make the math work without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give in on this. >> yeah, yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position. that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the...
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cliff is coming to town. ma merry cliff-mas. jim? >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion. >> entitlement reform. >> discretionary spending. [ applause [ applause ] >> i'm back. what happened? >> they are still trying to reach a resolution in the fiscal cliff talks. it's getting a little heated between president obama and speaker boehner. take a look at what they've been saying to each other. yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. to which boehner replied, maybe i will. and mr. obama replied, stop copying me. so which boehner replied, stop copying me. >> to which obama replied dam infinity. you win for now boehner. >> according to a new poll that just came out, most americans think santa claus is a democra
cliff is coming to town. ma merry cliff-mas. jim? >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion. >> entitlement reform. >> discretionary spending. [ applause [ applause ] >> i'm back. what happened? >> they are still trying to reach a resolution in the fiscal cliff talks. it's getting a little heated between president obama and speaker boehner. take a look at what they've been saying to each other. yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the...
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there is word of possible progress in the fiscal cliff standoff. officials say president obama and the house speaker john boehner talked by phone tonight after each put new offers on the table. we are live in d.c. with the late breaking details on that. plus, we're getting more new reports from portland, oregon where there has been a series of shootings at the clackman's center mall. we can now report that multiple witnesses are saying to multiple television stations that a gunman had a rifle that more than 60 shots were fired and this is new. he was trussed in camo and wearing a mask and to the best of our knowledge, he is still in there somewhere. continuing breaking news coverage after this. ory keeps c. ory keeps c. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like naturalrains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain f
there is word of possible progress in the fiscal cliff standoff. officials say president obama and the house speaker john boehner talked by phone tonight after each put new offers on the table. we are live in d.c. with the late breaking details on that. plus, we're getting more new reports from portland, oregon where there has been a series of shootings at the clackman's center mall. we can now report that multiple witnesses are saying to multiple television stations that a gunman had a rifle...
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. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not
. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects of a deal until the g.o.p. gives in on their demand for more tax money. >> what is lacking are the revenues. we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that requires companies to notif
when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects...
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in a few short weeks, the fiscal cliff is coming to town. merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan, detroit. eight mile. you have to come up with better miles than busting and disgusting. if you want to win the rap battle, put effort into it. >> you have one job. one factory. when you seize every benefit you could, yo, my palms are sweaty and knees weak working in the factory building chevies. you plug it in and you win. ecologically because if it was an actual race you would not actually. you got to collect for the union or robots are going to take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands the work will go. this opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo. >> we are locking at heavy rain and we will see i
in a few short weeks, the fiscal cliff is coming to town. merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan,...
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if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in the room and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> i want to take a closer look at what each side wants in the fiscal cliff and dpoeshiations, where they stand on taxes and savings. gloria borger joining us live. that was pretty cool what tom did. >> love that virtual studio. >> unbelievable. >> great. >> tell us a little bit about the sticking point here. it's about the taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans and the president sticking to that. republicans, it looks like some of them at least willing to move or budge on that. where do we stand? >> a little bit. we're kind of in the part of this where each side's waiting for the other side to go first, suzanne. and of course, the big sticking point, as you point out, is revenues. they have to figure out what to do about revenues before they figure out what to do about anything else. let's take a look at this. there's a big dif
if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in the room and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> i want to take a closer look at what each side wants in the fiscal cliff and dpoeshiations, where they stand on taxes and savings. gloria borger joining us live. that was pretty cool what tom did. >> love that virtual...
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revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second term in congress. what do you think about that, some suggesting this is in a political article that the republicans are foresee questions tracing if that is the only way to cut the debt and deficit. >> the challenge of it is this is really part sue of the debt ceiling debate we had last summer. we wanted a strategic plan to reduce the spending. the house passed that in may. we had an outlined plan to reduce spending. we had no answer from them. the see questions station wa sequestration was the last report. i haven't been in congress a longtime but i can tell you
revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second...
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to be known as the fiscal cliff and today republicans stood by their offer to close some tax loopholes and limit deductions and called on the for the give them a new plan that the congress could. president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
to be known as the fiscal cliff and today republicans stood by their offer to close some tax loopholes and limit deductions and called on the for the give them a new plan that the congress could. president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax...
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we will have more on the fiscal cliff coming up on the sunday round table in 20 minutes. next is paris from maryland on the independent line. caller: my question is, how money -- i think we need to go back to the basic for all americans to understand how money is made. how is it created. it is a clear understanding, that is the point. what organized people to come together to do something like school, police department, all of these types of things. how is it created? what is day one? as what i am looking at, what is day one? when civilization first expands, how money was created? host: the republican address came from marco rubio who has had a higher profile the last couple of months including his acceptance of the camp award in washington. here is more from the florida senator in the republican response. [video clip] >> americans of struggling to keep middle-class jobs for two reasons. we're not creating enough of these jobs and too many people did not have the skills for the jobs that are being created. a limited government can and help solve these challenges. we must
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. >>> brit brit hume brings his fiscal cliff analysis to table later. up next, rebels say syria's government is already using chemical weapons. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're always there for me. shh! i'll get you a rental car. i could also use an umbrella. fall in love with progressive's claims service. because helps you keep doing what you love. no wonder it's america's #1 selling pain reliever. you took action, you took advil®. and we thank you. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. >> bret: activist in syria say rebels captured parts of another large army base in the north. that tightens their grip on areas close to the turkish border. back in the u.s., the government is moving closer to making a decision about one faction in the opposition forces. there are inc
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no fiscal cliff photo opes today. the fewer supposedly the better news when it comes to the republicans and the president cutting a deal. we will see if they are right. you are watching t"the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! [ male announcer ] we began serving handcrafted coffees in seattle, and people seemed to like it. so we wondered -- where else could we take this? ♪ for over 40 years, we've brought our passion for fine coffee and espresso to people everywhere. but one place was impossible, until now. our lattes, espresso and brewed coffee, now in your home from a machine like no other. and now $50 off through january 1st. the verismo® system, by starbucks. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male
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and if they can come to a deal, then i think we can avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and do you think that -- somebody put this idea out here. and this idea is really vile. i'll use the right word. i think you'll agree. here's the idea. let's go off the cliff, just for purely political reasons, nothing happens immediately, and then, you know, you all come back in session in early january, and you give the middle class a tax cut, and you give the wealthy a tax cut, they'll pay more than they're paying now but less than 39.6.% is that possibly what both sides are angling to? >> you use the word vile and i'll echo that word. i think going over the cliff is a disaster. i think social leaders negotiate the best deal they possibly can, and let's try and get this done. i would not be for playing a game of chicken, if you will, or trying to fool the american people who are pretty dadgum smart when it comes to these sorts of things. >> do you fear the right wing of your own party, a wing that says any revenue, as you heard jim demint say, no revenue, not part of the deal. do you think that's going
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one of the things that's so disappointing is this fiscal cliff didn't come out of nowhere. we've known it was coming. it was rolling our direction. but one of the things frustrating americans is it seemed like the cliff was being ignored or just put on hold while the campaign was going on and it was the day after the election. we saw the dow drop 300 points and suddenly everyone woke up and said we've got to face this cliff. the question is can they really address these issues in the next 24 days with the president heading for vacation, congress about to go home. doesn't feel good. >> no. and in terms of we're waiting to find out if we're going to go over the cliff, but we're already seeing the effects of it, aren't we? we have a lot of americans without jobs, and just the fear of going over the cliff is even affecting that, right? because it's affecting hiring. >> without a doubt. you wonder, is it affecting big business or small business. corporate ceos are simply sitting on their hands. you're seeing u.s. corporations with more money on their balance sheet than they've h
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together on the fiscal cliff negotiations. while there are outlines of what a possible compromise could look like, liken stead of raising tax rates to 39.6% which was the clinton-era rate, maybe go to 37% and close some loopholes and deductions. there are still not indications that house republicans are willing to do that. and on the spending side, which really if you look at the media across the board, there hasn't been a lot of focus on it at all. the spending side. and what spending cuts are on the table. we haven't heard anything specific about what is in addition to what's been out there from the very beginning. jon: right because the republicans claim the country doesn't have an income or a revenue problem it has a spending problem, and that's where republicans say the bulk of the savings, or the rescue plan for this -- this budget is going to come. >> reporter: sure, i mean you have some proposals that are out there, for example, means testing, medicare, social security. you have adjustments to consumer price index with
together on the fiscal cliff negotiations. while there are outlines of what a possible compromise could look like, liken stead of raising tax rates to 39.6% which was the clinton-era rate, maybe go to 37% and close some loopholes and deductions. there are still not indications that house republicans are willing to do that. and on the spending side, which really if you look at the media across the board, there hasn't been a lot of focus on it at all. the spending side. and what spending cuts are...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for dragging their feet. at least publicly, seems we're walking on a treadmill, getting nowhere. anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> we certainly hope so. the fact two sides do toin to talk, even if we don't necessarily hear about every detail is encouraging. it does appear republicans are getting close to the idea of raising -- sorry, of cutting taxes for middle income americans and maybe sorting out higher incomes a little later. certainly things aren't necessarily going the republicans way. i think we've seen polling this week that suggests congressional republicans would be held to account if, in fact, the country does go over the cliff. but friday sort of signaled, as boehner said, the
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for dragging their feet. at least publicly, seems we're walking on a treadmill, getting...
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no end in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for the president. gangnam style said about our soldiers a few years ago. that controversy kicking up this morning. "fox & friends" hour one begins right now. >> get out the coffee. wake up, everyone, thank you so much for waking up with tus, it is "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. dave bowling in for dave briggs. >> come in and do the show with us today. more filling in today than the regulars. we are glad to be on with you clayton. >> you are on an interesting morning because congress now just 23 days left, 23 days until we head off that flif. fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading r
no end in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for...
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i'm still convinced they are not going to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff unless compelled to do so by an adverse external event like a sharply lower equity market. lou: and is, you know, i can't imagine a market ever going down as john is suggesting here simply because a government chooses not to function. >> well, if it means we're headed into recession, the markets will react. in a typical bear market, stocks sell off by 20%. it's great to have a compromise before the year end, but time is running out. it's not possible. lou: how is it that a treasury secretary responsible for the integrity of the markets, the currency, responsible, indeed, for the financial system of this country, largely, broadly, and internationally, would sink to the level of a political operative making statements about we're going over the fiscal cliff and we're ready to go. >> the president put him in charge of the negotiations from his point of view. lou: clever. >> he's wearing two hats at this point in time. consider here, yes, there's a big complicated negotiation that needs to take place, but th
i'm still convinced they are not going to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff unless compelled to do so by an adverse external event like a sharply lower equity market. lou: and is, you know, i can't imagine a market ever going down as john is suggesting here simply because a government chooses not to function. >> well, if it means we're headed into recession, the markets will react. in a typical bear market, stocks sell off by 20%. it's great to have a compromise before the year...
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. >> host: as part of our series looking at that so-called fiscal cliff that's looming, we're looking at different aspects of it. and today we turn our attention to the alternative minimum tax and the patch that could come from congress if they're able to work out a deal. if they do nothing, this will impact 30 million americans. joining us to discuss is georgetown law's john buckley. thank you for being here. john buckley, let's begin. what is the alternative minimum tax? >> guest: well, in very simple terms, the tax requires you to pay the greater of what you pay under the regular income tax or what you would compute under the minimum tax which has a slightly broader base. it disallows some deductions that would be allowed in the regular tax. in some respects it's very similar to the cap on itemized deductions that's currently being discussed. rather than directly attack preferences and expenditures, it essentially puts an overall cap on the benefit. there's no new ideas in this debate. the cap bears a very strong relationship to how the alternative minimum tax works. >> host: here
. >> host: as part of our series looking at that so-called fiscal cliff that's looming, we're looking at different aspects of it. and today we turn our attention to the alternative minimum tax and the patch that could come from congress if they're able to work out a deal. if they do nothing, this will impact 30 million americans. joining us to discuss is georgetown law's john buckley. thank you for being here. john buckley, let's begin. what is the alternative minimum tax? >> guest:...
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the fiscal cliff cloud is lingering. here it comes, i know. defending new york city. in your three-block view. the president used last night's national christmas tree light to go remind everyone the holiday season is for merry times. >> the tree has one message, it's christmastime, not disaster time. >> within their three block radius. our friday gaggle who are all bashing me, republican strategist, former adviser to chris christie, maggie, who is the defender of new york city, senior political reporter for politico, ann reid. >> morning, brooklyn. just saying. >> she is a floridian. that's why i allow you on. come on, now. managing editor of the grio.com. fiscal cliff. mike, i want to start with you. it does seem as if there are three groups of republican thought, right? you have the conservatives saying, you know, don't relent on this. upset jim demint was critical of john boehner the day before he left the senate saying i can't believe you agreed 0 to any tax relief, where the house is trying to configure something that keeps them safe and then you have the governo
the fiscal cliff cloud is lingering. here it comes, i know. defending new york city. in your three-block view. the president used last night's national christmas tree light to go remind everyone the holiday season is for merry times. >> the tree has one message, it's christmastime, not disaster time. >> within their three block radius. our friday gaggle who are all bashing me, republican strategist, former adviser to chris christie, maggie, who is the defender of new york city,...
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. >>> well, the fiscal cliff is looming unless congress takes action to avoid it. coming up at 7:15, the number of california defense department jobs that could be lost if automatic trick -- automatic tax cuts are formed. >>> bill clinton says he's not sure if hillary clinton will run for president. she said she does not want to continue a secretary of state for president obama's second term. she said she wants to focus on issues to -- that are important to women. >>> let's see what tara is seeing on 880. >> we have a lot of traffic on pinole and then past the golden gate gate. we're in berkeley/emeryville. we have a traffic issue in here. 280, northbound towards santa clara, looking pretty bad. give yourself extra time. let's check in with steve. >>> tara, thank you. there's definitely some breaks in the clouds. jive seen gusts to 25 miles per hour. i dent think this -- i've seen gusts to 25 miles per hour. i don't think this -- this breeze can helpster things up a little bit. still some low clouds around. i'm seeing breaks in the clouds for san jose. kind of a co
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs. the white house has wasted another week. >> one sign of optimism is when he was pressed by a reporter about tax rates, he seemed to leave the door open about some flexibility of negotiating with the white house. vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is wiggle room on both sides. that may be where we get a deal if these two sides get together next week, shep. >> shepard: u.s. officials say the syrian regime has begun preparing for use a nerve gas, one that's capable of killing thousands of people. the question is is the syrian president bashar assad ready to unleash a chemical weapon on his own people. the latest analysis coming up. don't expect to start using your cell phones on airplanes. at least not yet. it could soon be okay to use your ipad, kindle and laptop takeoff and landing at least if one government heavy hitter gets his way.
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs. the white house has wasted another week. >> one sign of optimism is when he was pressed by a reporter about tax rates, he seemed to leave the door open about some flexibility of negotiating with the white house. vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is...
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now and the fiscal cliff negotiation. the back and forth between both sides hasn't been complimentary. quite the opposite, in fact, which means the country needs to prepare for what comes next. that would be automatic spending cups and the expiration of bush era tax breaks. the pentagon has been preparing, and as our john callan reports, so have families who have a whole lot to lose if a deal doesn't get done. >> reporter: jeremy connor, married father of two. >> i've worked recently for a very large defense contractor, and my wife works for that same defense contractor. >> reporter: he left that job after 18 years for more stability since the couple both worked in the same department. >> the discussion of the fiscal cliff just made sense for one of us to get out. >> you know, we didn't know what it looked like down the road, if we were even going to have jobs at all. >> reporter: pentagon's budget for the next ten years has already been flashed $500 billion, and could face another half trillion in automatic cuts if congr
now and the fiscal cliff negotiation. the back and forth between both sides hasn't been complimentary. quite the opposite, in fact, which means the country needs to prepare for what comes next. that would be automatic spending cups and the expiration of bush era tax breaks. the pentagon has been preparing, and as our john callan reports, so have families who have a whole lot to lose if a deal doesn't get done. >> reporter: jeremy connor, married father of two. >> i've worked...
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january 1st comes along, and we proverbially fall off the fiscal cliff. where will we feel it first? >> it's one thing after another. first thing is the payroll tax holiday. right away the first week you would have less money in your paycheck. people like alicia immediately would lose that check, and there's going to be 2 million people at the end of december who would lose their checks and another million by the end of the first quarter who would lose their checks according to the national employment law project. and your tax rates could go up for everyone. you could pay a higher tax rate, and guys like jeffrey sheninger have to figure out how to change that when you get paid by your company. >> effectively on january 1st we start to feel it if your employer can get their software changed. whether you see it on your check or not, it's going to be there ultimately at some point. bad news and very interesting news at the same time. >> i love her outlook about next year, though. even alicia has a promising outlook on next year. she thinks it will look bette
january 1st comes along, and we proverbially fall off the fiscal cliff. where will we feel it first? >> it's one thing after another. first thing is the payroll tax holiday. right away the first week you would have less money in your paycheck. people like alicia immediately would lose that check, and there's going to be 2 million people at the end of december who would lose their checks and another million by the end of the first quarter who would lose their checks according to the...
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as far as the fiscal cliff. were talking about using something is coming, you think that is good news. >> there is always the inside game and the outside game. they will talk to their base and their constituents. they have to get something by the 18th which is next tuesday so they can vote an on it. the matter what it is, something will be coming out of there. nicole: something will be better than nothing out of washington. that is the latest. he sounds pretty happy at least at the moment. today he is positive. tracy: here is a glass half full. we will take it. ashley: thanks, guys. looking at the old tea leaves of what is going to happen with speaker boehner taking the house floor with 20 days until we fall off the fiscal cliff he says it is time for president obama to get serious. really? rich edson in d.c. for all of this. >> actually somebody has to be positive, right? in d.c. we are not getting it right now. sources are looking at these meetings and saying there is essentially no move in it the last couple
as far as the fiscal cliff. were talking about using something is coming, you think that is good news. >> there is always the inside game and the outside game. they will talk to their base and their constituents. they have to get something by the 18th which is next tuesday so they can vote an on it. the matter what it is, something will be coming out of there. nicole: something will be better than nothing out of washington. that is the latest. he sounds pretty happy at least at the...
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why the newest powerball winner is coming forward now before the fiscal cliff. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> steve: hey, everybody. you know what, in the break, tobo was playing alvin and the chipmunk, they used to play that when i was a little kid. >> gretchen: really? >> steve: back in the day. back in the 1960s, whenever. a lot of people thought when i was that anal, how did they teach those chipmunk to sing. >> eric: amazing. >> gretchen: actually kids still today think that because they've had the brilliant idea of having several alvin and the chipmunk movies that i have been honored to go to. and i think they had a christmas one one time. >> steve: eric bolling is busy today. >> eric: nothing to say about the chipmunks. >> steve: he's in today. >> gretchen: we have headlines. developing story overnight, a medical chopper went down last night leaving three people dead and officials just reporting that icing on the aircraft may be to blame. it happened in northern illinois. the chopper, registered to rockford memorial hospital, was headed from rockfor
why the newest powerball winner is coming forward now before the fiscal cliff. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> steve: hey, everybody. you know what, in the break, tobo was playing alvin and the chipmunk, they used to play that when i was a little kid. >> gretchen: really? >> steve: back in the day. back in the 1960s, whenever. a lot of people thought when i was that anal, how did they teach those chipmunk to sing. >> eric: amazing. >> gretchen:...
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cliff. after that, a panel on innovation and the economy. later a conversation about have the fiscal deadline could affect the defense budget. >> on tomorrow morning's "washington journal," we continue our look at the so- called fiscal clef and what happens if the budget cuts take place in january. jim doyle the effect on businesses. after that, charles clark looks at domestic program cuts. in more about the issue with the brookings institution. bless your e-mail, phone calls, and tweets. that is live tuesday at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> next, president obama talking about the economy and the need to reach an agreement with congress on the january fiscal deadline. he spoke at a diesel plant outside of detroit. his remarks are about 25 minutes. >> hello, redford! [applause] it is good to be back in michigan. [applause] how is everybody doing today? [applause] now, let me just start off by saying we have something in common -- both our teams lost yesterday. [laughter] i mean, i would lik
cliff. after that, a panel on innovation and the economy. later a conversation about have the fiscal deadline could affect the defense budget. >> on tomorrow morning's "washington journal," we continue our look at the so- called fiscal clef and what happens if the budget cuts take place in january. jim doyle the effect on businesses. after that, charles clark looks at domestic program cuts. in more about the issue with the brookings institution. bless your e-mail, phone calls,...
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and the fiscal cliff. james cheeks says he is counting on congress to prevent his taxes from going up. >> scary. you know, it's scary. where is that money going to come from, you know, how am i going to pay that extra tax hike. >> reporter: one booth over, ted and gus say they don't think congress can avoid the cliff. >> i hope so, but i don't see it yet. >> if we're going to have standoffs, have that do nothing congress, it is going to be awfully toug to get anything done. >> reporter: potential effects of the fiscal cliff in rock island, illinois aren't necessarily any better or worse than in other cities around the country. the bottom line is if congress fails to act, repercussions will be felt across the country. wolf? >> ted rowlands in rock island, illinois. >>> imagine being able to use your ipad, cell phone in the air whenever you want. up next, we have details on a new government effort under way now to keep you plugged in all the time, including on takeoff and landing, while flying. stand by. ♪
and the fiscal cliff. james cheeks says he is counting on congress to prevent his taxes from going up. >> scary. you know, it's scary. where is that money going to come from, you know, how am i going to pay that extra tax hike. >> reporter: one booth over, ted and gus say they don't think congress can avoid the cliff. >> i hope so, but i don't see it yet. >> if we're going to have standoffs, have that do nothing congress, it is going to be awfully toug to get anything...
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part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are supporting this project today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trends, on the vast and unfunded promise we have made. i have decided was not unsustainable, but a primary threat to the future. speaking of unsustainable, in the nixon white house in which i served, the chairman of the council, if something is unsustainable, he says it continues to stop. or if you don't like that, if your worst eyes, i suggest that you does not dismount. in lieu of that retirement, i decided to set up the foundation to increase awareness of long-term debts and get solutions. never in my experience have these things are more closely linked, in the words of mike mullen. we are endlessly reminded that everything must be on the ta
part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are supporting this project today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trends, on the vast and unfunded promise we have made. i have decided was not unsustainable, but a primary...
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bomb most people recover funds comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff that's a set of spending rises and talks cards that are set to take effect on the first of january and could be ruinous what they call me but does the average american fear the looming doom who's new york resident trying to find out. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know if it's good vote do you think a lot of americans do so then why is the media talking about it incessantly we're also going to i guess i have not as informed as i should be but i just kind of figure it might work out do you think most people feel that way you know you think most people are worried i think they are and i think that if i ignored it all go away do you think calling it something like the fiscal cliff minimizes it yes or no i definitely agree that it's a complex problem i don't think it simplifies it though i think it adds an element of panic or fear looming. doom that and the media loves that yeah i do thin
bomb most people recover funds comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff that's a set of spending rises and talks cards that are set to take effect on the first of january and could be ruinous what they call me but does the average american fear the looming doom who's new york resident trying to find out. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know if it's good vote do...
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a rare look inside their fiscal cliff negotiations. >>. >> bl those little things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for ily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficu
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to an agreement on the fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner met privately sunday in a surprise meeting, but they're not commenting much in public on whether there's been much progress. joining me now is political science professor and political chief correspondent for politics 365, jason johnson, and republican strategist, ron bon john. some say the fact that we're not hearing much of washington is a good sign, and in this case, silence is golden. you guys agree? >> yeah, i definitely do. look, one of the things that we've got to realize here is that the more that this fight takes place in public, the less is being done behind closed doors, because everyone feels that they have to justify the public rhetoric. so i think that we have two silences going on. there's barack obama and john boehner working things out and the republicans realizing that they've got to find a way to negotiate. so silence is golden for christmas season. >> do you agree, ron bonjean? >> yes, i completely agree. i think that
to an agreement on the fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner met privately sunday in a surprise meeting, but they're not commenting much in public on whether there's been much progress. joining me now is political science professor and political chief correspondent for politics 365, jason johnson, and republican strategist, ron bon john. some say the fact that we're not hearing much of washington is a good sign, and in this case, silence is golden. you guys agree?...
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jane harman, thanks so much for coming in. the jersey shore about to meet the fiscal cliff. grim news for governor christie as he visits washington. >>> plus the controversial place to store your text messages. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. without freshly-made pasta. you could also cut corners by making it without 100% real cheddar cheese. but then...it wouldn't be stouffer's mac & cheese. just one of over 70 satisfying recipes for one from stouff
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copper is partly down because of the fiscal cliff but they're worried about data coming out of the china. very, very important. if we get strong data out of china tonight that should help industrial metals. look at rest of the markets, oil down here a little bit. those fiscal cliff, that's what you call it, is really holding back the commodities right now. back to you. lori: phil, thanks as always. adam: you have a five and a 3-year-old they're not quite at age but they're getting there. when they say in the car "are we there yet?". lori: they already do that. adam: google maps is back for your iphone. shibani joshi shows us why you won't get lost now but apple may need a new direction. its stock is dropping and below the de500 billion market cap level once again. lori: jurisprudence item of the hour. after a month on the run software pioneer john mcafee is back in the united states. here are winners and losers as we head off to break. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day
copper is partly down because of the fiscal cliff but they're worried about data coming out of the china. very, very important. if we get strong data out of china tonight that should help industrial metals. look at rest of the markets, oil down here a little bit. those fiscal cliff, that's what you call it, is really holding back the commodities right now. back to you. lori: phil, thanks as always. adam: you have a five and a 3-year-old they're not quite at age but they're getting there. when...
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all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character trying to end his recurring nightmare in "groundhog day." >> we musn't keep it waiting. >> he might be ok. chris: the worst movie analogy we could imagine ends badly for all concerned. let's hope and pray that thelma and louise are not boehner and obama. my own favorite clip is mount rushmore, "north by northwest," the hitchcock great with cary grant pursued by spies. the survival is never in doubt. not sure if that's true now. when we return, the hillary clinton for 2016 talk is ready to roar. scoops and predictions. chris: we just re-elected barack obama but the hillary for president talk is getting lou
all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character...
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cliff deal but what does the so-called dollar index really gauge when it comes to the greenbacks true value will break it down and word of the day and paying people to track the comings and goings of private corporate jets and the big wigs on them amount to this. material nonpublic information which is defined as the information that the average investor doesn't have the capability of an insider trading case pretty damn. there is a debate we'll talk about it and loose change let's get to today's capital account . while a fiscal cliff debate seems to consume the domestic airwaves it also reverberated around the global echo chamber providing a baseline for headlines like this that we found a day in the english edition of the chinese government news source no deal in sight on the u.s. fiscal cliff to the international edition of the german paper der spiegel budget disarray u.s. set to restage greek tragedy now it may not represent the same type of threat but it is reminiscent of the debt ceiling debate in the summer of two thousand and eleven after which the u.s. of course lost its aaa c
cliff deal but what does the so-called dollar index really gauge when it comes to the greenbacks true value will break it down and word of the day and paying people to track the comings and goings of private corporate jets and the big wigs on them amount to this. material nonpublic information which is defined as the information that the average investor doesn't have the capability of an insider trading case pretty damn. there is a debate we'll talk about it and loose change let's get to...
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bob, i want to switch to -- not that we've exhausted the fiscal cliff. we'll come back to that. but another big issue congress -- justice antonin scalia got in a little hot water this week. >> you mean noni? >> bill: that's his nickname. antonin scalia. he was at princeton and somebody said you know, justice in the past you've equated homosexuality with beastality. is that really fair and he said basically his own style hey get with it! i mean if you can't have moral feelings about homosexuality can you have moral feelings about murder. puts the two in the same sentence. so the question becomes now you have same sex before the supreme court. can he fairly and evenly and openly rule in that case? hasn't he already made up his mind? the question is raised. george takei was asked about this yesterday. great actor. remembered mostly from "star wars". >> "star trek"! oh, my god! >> bill: he predates. he's "star trek." george takei no doubt about it. his answer here. >> jaws 'tis scalia needs to consider recusing himself. he is obviously not unbiased. he is clearly biased in this situ
bob, i want to switch to -- not that we've exhausted the fiscal cliff. we'll come back to that. but another big issue congress -- justice antonin scalia got in a little hot water this week. >> you mean noni? >> bill: that's his nickname. antonin scalia. he was at princeton and somebody said you know, justice in the past you've equated homosexuality with beastality. is that really fair and he said basically his own style hey get with it! i mean if you can't have moral feelings about...
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fiscal cliff and what will happen if the white house and congress fail to find a solution capital account is on its way from washington shortly and more news from moscow thirty five minutes from now. choose your language. we can with know if they feel some of us. choose the buttes the consensus you can. choose the opinions that invigorating to. choose the stories that impact your life choose the access to your office. plz. he is under siege for. destruction without mercy. what could be just ruins. saved by a great sacrifice. anything under a storm by human justice. a remarkable reminder of courage and selflessness. beauty is a. rush the sight. of. the. good afternoon welcome to capital account i'm lauren mr here in washington d.c. these are your headlines for friday december seventh two thousand and twelve is jobs day u.s. jobs numbers for november came in better than expected with the b.l.s. report showing one hundred forty six thousand jobs were added much more than expected and the unemployment rate fell to seven point seven percent but why did the rate went down because more people le
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cliff, but resolve it in a way that makes our country stronger. that's why the president's come here to metro detroit. we're the home for u.s. manufacturing. also we're the home for the american worker. we need to resolve our fiscal problems, but resolve them in a way that continues to investigation in training and educating our workers and advanced manufacturing and also providing the revenue that we need to still provide health care to our seniors and social security to those who depend on it. >> sir, let's talk about getting to the sensible center here. because as the politico poll that i referenced earlier off the top of the show indicates, 59% oppose significant cuts to defense but 75% favor across the board spending cuts. so where are you and other colleagues willing to start with those spending cuts? i mean, what are democrats willing to put on the table specifically? >> well, first of all, i've spoken to many republicans in the house. i'm one of the most liberal democratic members of the house, but i have great relationships with the repub
cliff, but resolve it in a way that makes our country stronger. that's why the president's come here to metro detroit. we're the home for u.s. manufacturing. also we're the home for the american worker. we need to resolve our fiscal problems, but resolve them in a way that continues to investigation in training and educating our workers and advanced manufacturing and also providing the revenue that we need to still provide health care to our seniors and social security to those who depend on...